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251208 Special Meeting LBOT December 8, 2025 – Special Meeting – Library Board of Trustees The Randolph County Board of Commissioners met in special session at 6:00 p.m. in the 1909 Randolph County Historic Courthouse Meeting Room, 145 Worth Street, Asheboro, NC. Chairman Darrell Frye, Vice-Chairman Kenny Kidd, Commissioner David Allen, Commissioner Hope Haywood, and Commissioner Lester Rivenbark were present. Also present were County Manager Zeb Holden, Assistant County Manager/Finance Officer Will Massie, Assistant County Manager William Johnson, County Attorney Ben Morgan, and Clerk to the Board Dana Crisco. Chaplain Bill Hatfield from the Randolph County Sheriff’s Office gave an invocation. Chairman Frye opened the meeting and stated the purpose of the Public Hearing was to determine the future of the Public Library Board of Trustees. He opened the hearing. County Attorney Ben Morgan read aloud the Public Comment Rules of Procedure, as follows: The Commissioners will hear comments from those wishing to speak on the status of the Randolph County Public Library Board of Trustees for a period of up to 2 hours. Each individual speaker will be limited to 3 minutes. Names of those wishing to speak will be drawn at random from a bowl for a period of up to 2 hours. Following the public input portion of the meeting, the Commissioners will discuss the issues raised and take action as they see fit at that time. Amanda Rivenbark, 2771 Danny Bell Rd., Asheboro frequents the library. She supports a decision to dissolve the Library Board of Trustees. Laura Heflin, 123 Hope Valley Dr., Archdale, cares about the libraries. She said a Commissioner claimed that members were not following the by-laws. She does not agree with that comment. If term limits and year per terms are a concern, the Board should consider it for all boards they appoint. Ron Berbaum, 1029 Pleasant Cross Rd., Franklinville, said regardless of whether a member is appointed, elected, or employed; an organization must be reviewed for the good of the whole organization. Harriet Moulder, 416 Rising Sun Way, Franklinville, does not agree with book banning. She feels the Library Board of Trustees is being punished. The library offers an opportunity to create listening and safe spaces. Steve Grove, 1937 Horse Carriage Ln., Asheboro, is a Library Board of Trustees member. He stated that collections are balanced by the librarians. The mission of the Library Board of Trustees is to make unbiased decisions. Jennifer Swanner, 6000 Westhaven Ln., Trinity, thanked the Library Board of Trustees for their decisions. She stated that members of that Board need to be unbiased. Greg Erickson, 612 Graceland Dr., Asheboro, is opposed to book banning. However, he said the book was not appropriate for children. It is the Board’s responsibility to ensure the safety of children. He is in favor of removing the members of the Library Board of Trustees. 12/8/25 Judy Saunders, 1402 E. Allred St., Asheboro, stated that library staff is always pleasant and responsive. She fears that this decision will lead to banning books. Dr. Charles Egerton, 642 Parkview St., Asheboro, made comments about his concerns that religious extremism may be at work to dissolve the Library Board of Trustees. Tonia Nelson, 3585 Nelson Rd., Sophia, is in support of the Library Board of Trustees. The by-laws state that members of the board be from different areas of the county for equal representation. All members should not be eliminated at the same time. She said that is violating st 1 Amendment rights. Nathan Burris, 4362 Black Mountain Rd., Asheboro, is the ethics teacher at Faith Christian School. The book was not appropriate in the children’s section. He urged the Commissioners to have the book moved. st Gary Jones, 1291 Cliffwood Dr., Asheboro, agrees with 1 Amendment rights and is not for book banning. He stated that the Library Board of Trustees must protect children from content that could be harmful. Erik Davis, 997 Foxfire Rd., Lot 1, Asheboro, said this hearing started because of a book. The Library Board of Trustees did their job. They should not be replaced. The topic of the book is gender not sexuality. Christian Vestal, 2803 George York Rd., Randleman, said the Library Board of Trustees should be replaced. The Commissioners need to take a stand against society. Rev. Mark Creech, 710 Spring Falls Dr., Raleigh, serves as a lobbyist for Return America. He commended the Commissioners for removing the Library Board of Trustees. This issue is about protecting children. Richard Callahan, 2421 Spencer Rd., Asheboro, said the Commissioners have a responsibility to protect citizens. When children change their identity, they are confused. He urged for protection of children. Jennifer Eagle, 7696 Union Grove Church Rd., Seagrove, said librarians should not make decisions on books based on their opinions. Marking books is also not appropriate. Judith West, 339 Gregg St., Archdale, believes the Library Board of Trustees deserves respect. She does not want people from other places to be a factor in the decisions for Randolph County. One of the Commissioners has said that funding for the library should be withheld. She does not agree. Fleming Bell, 304 Shamrock Rd., Asheboro, is a native of Randolph County and has recently returned here to live. He retired from the NC School of Government and taught Library Board of 12/8/25 Trustees members. As a citizen, he is concerned about censorship. He wants church and state to be separate. Robert Morrison, 1735 Viewmont Ct., Asheboro, hopes that all agree that the Public Library should be for everyone. There should be content for all. The Library Board of Trustees has done their job. Zack Hughes, 1196 Sheridan Dr., Asheboro, cares about protecting children. The Library Board of Trustees decision was approved with content of a book that was not age appropriate. Dillon Green, 858 Woodcrest Dr., Asheboro, said he doesn’t discriminate against people. He believes that transgender topics should not be available for children. Dallas Hurley, 1136 Brady St. Ext., Ramseur, is concerned that the Library Board of Trustees did not allow a compromise. She supports the decision to dissolve the Library Board of Trustees. Todd Nance, 1995 Parks Crossroads Church Rd., Ramseur, is a pastor. He felt the topic of the book was grooming children. Adam Hurley, 1132 McDowell Rd., Asheboro, said all are here to accomplish the same thing; “morality defined by man. It is immoral for parents to allow children to harm themselves.” Rev. Dr. Brent Tysinger, 1248 Willow Wood Rd., Asheboro, is a lifelong County resident. Those that say church and state should be separate should rethink that choice. Christians support removal of the Library Board of Trustees because they failed children. Charlie White, 482 Fairfax Ct., Asheboro, said the Library Board of Trustees had a hearing st and not everybody got their way. Now the Library Board of Trustees is being targeted. Our 1 Amendment rights give everyone the right to read and access information on all topics. Betty Jo Armfield, 6098 Burgess Farm Dr., Ramseur, thanked the Commissioners for appointing her to the Library Board of Trustees. She said the Trustees are a bridge between the public and the library. They are responsible for looking at all sides of an issue and not limit anyone’s point of view. Jonathan Burris, 4362 Black Mountain Rd., Asheboro, said Christians are against transgender. No one is asking to ban books. Wanda Rivenbark, 1501 Gopher Woods Rd., Asheboro, supports the decision to dissolve the Library Board of Trustees. Troy Carter, 639 Crystal Wood Rd., Asheboro, came to the library appeal meeting. He is opposed to children being exposed to the content of the book. It is harming children. 12/8/25 Pat Miller, 4194 Millers Mill Rd., Trinity, supports the Library Board of Trustees. The book was written by an award-winning author and school librarian. The book is focused on identity not sexuality. She reminded everyone that books are optional to check out. Becky Mureszewski, 3587 Jennifer View Dr., Asheboro, agrees with dissolving the Library Board of Trustees. The book is not appropriate for children. Allen Mashburn, 202 Asbury Church Rd., Seagrove, said he is a taxpayer, pastor, and counselor. He has counseled people who were confused. Library Board of Trustees should be dissolved for the safety of the children. Jonathan Madson, 4221 Beckerdite Rd., Sophia, was given a book by a teacher. It confused him. He did not think it was appropriate for him. Susan Scott, 516 W. Kivett St., Asheboro, is in support of the Library Board of Trustees. She is glad the Library Board of Trustees made a decision not to move the book. The book Call Me Max may have helped some of her peers when they were younger. John Campbell, 1342 Ross Harris Rd., Asheboro, said some are afraid of people who don’t fit in. He said Jesus stood with those that were different. Love thy neighbor. Care for people. Caleb Stout, 3562 Fox Dr., Asheboro, said that Jesus did not condone sin. Children need to be protected from harmful material. Krys Gollihue, 4955 Piney Ridge Church Rd., Seagrove, shared that she is gender non- conforming. She said others that are gender nonconforming or different deserve representation. Jon Megerian, 175 E. Salisbury St., Asheboro, said both his mother and daughter are Librarians. Removing a book is an act of censorship. The Library Board of Trustees followed their rules. Chairman Frye closed the Public Hearing. He stated that there is no Commissioner representative on the Library Board of Trustees. He and the other Commissioners are reviewing the by-laws and procedures. He said the book from the appeal was exposing children to something when they were not ready. On motion of Kidd, seconded by Rivenbark, pursuant to NCGS 153A-77(a) that the Randolph County Board of Commissioners adopt a Resolution Assuming Direct Control of the Randolph County Public Library Board of Trustees. The existing Board of Trustees are hereby relieved of their official capacity and the existing by-laws of the Randolph County Public Library Board of Trustees are hereby dissolved. Commissioner Haywood said she could not support the motion. She admitted that the Commissioners need to look at all the board policies. Her father was a pastor and he always tried to be firm, fair, and Christlike. He did not believe in making himself look better by making someone else feel worse. Her personal opinion is not relevant. She suggested looking at the 12/8/25 applications and making them better. She would prefer the Commissioners give some consideration for all boards. They should not abolish a board. Commissioner Rivenbark stated that the Library Board of Trustees followed the policies but they do not represent what Randolph County citizens believe. Commissioner Allen said there is some middle ground. This has been a divisive issue. The Commissioners need to come to a consensus. Removing a board is wrong. The Commissioners must put the public good ahead of themselves. There are four members of the Board of Commissioners that have appointed these members on the Library Board of Trustees. It is not prudent to make changes without having a solution. Government moves slowly for a reason. He mentioned being told that he been told to vote the “right” way. This is political. It sets a poor precedence. The Commissioners need to be encouraging the best people to serve. Boards need continuity and staggered terms to maintain institutional knowledge. This issue has had financial effects. There has been a lot of time spent on this issue. The Commissioners should review how all boards are appointed, review the applications and possibly make them more tailored to each board. By dissolving the Library Board of Trustees, there will be no framework and no expertise. The members with Library science expertise will be lost. He cannot support the motion. Vice-Chairman Kidd said the Commissioners must make tough decisions and deal with tough issues. He has peace about this decision. It is a black and white issue. The Library Board of Trustees does not represent the values of the community. There have been time and resources spent on this issue. Saving the souls of children is important. This thought did not enter the minds of the Library Board of Trustees. Commissioner Haywood stated the library offers programming and collaboration with both public and private schools. They offer services for children and adults. The Community Navigators are there to give people resources that improve their quality of life. The library has STEM programming. In the resent survey by the library, 751 people felt the library was a safe place. There should be no defunding of the library. On motion of Kidd, seconded by Rivenbark, the Board voted 3-2 with Haywood and Allen opposing pursuant to NCGS 153A-77(a) that the Randolph County Board of Commissioners adopt a Resolution Assuming Direct Control of the Randolph County Public Library Board of Trustees. The existing Board of Trustees are hereby relieved of their official capacity and the existing by- laws of the Randolph County Public Library Board of Trustees are hereby dissolved. Adjournment At 8:35 p.m., on motion of Allen, seconded by Haywood, the Board voted 5-0 to adjourn. ________________________________ ________________________________ Darrell Frye, Chairman Kenny Kidd 12/8/25 ________________________________ _________________________________ David Allen Hope Haywood ________________________________ _________________________________ Lester Rivenbark Dana Crisco, Clerk to the Board 12/8/25